Attorney Ian Runkle
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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And sir, as far as the gift that's mentioned, as far as Julie Albert, is that anything that you have received at any point in time?
What are you referring to in that text, sir?
And again, as far as the terminology, did you use in that text message to your wife?
And as far as your indication there, as far as she was a whack job, who are you referring to there?
If you could read what you wrote on June 9th.
Answer, what is it that you're referring to there?
And who are the troopers that are listed within that?
Now, sir, if I could direct your attention to a message sent from Trooper to Chico, August 17th, 2022 at 9.42 p.m. Yes. And is that an image contained on the next page, which is 2683?
And what is the image of?
Now, turning your attention to the next page, there's a response from you, August 17th, 2022 at 9.44 p.m. Is that correct? Yes. If you could just read the three responses from yourself, sir.
No.
What do you not see in those text messages? You don't see any discussion or any illusion of any conspiracy. There is no conspiracy. There is no cover up. There is no evidence of any of that. And the defendant killed John O'Connor.
Here's attorney Ian Runkle. One of the key issues, and this is one that gets a lot of argument, is this issue of this internet search, which either occurs between 2 and 3 a.m. And if she does that search between 2 or 3 a.m., then the Commonwealth's case falls apart because they haven't
had to be aware at that point that John O'Keefe was dying in the cold at a time when nobody should have known except by the prosecution's theory, Karen Reid. And so if Jen McCabe was aware of that fact between 2 or 3 a.m., then the prosecution's entire case falls apart. I don't think that you can reconcile that search at that time with a theory that supports conviction. Jackson boldly proceeded.
They have experts that say that that's sort of a digital artifact, a digital oops, essentially. And so that's either sort of weak evidence towards Karen Reid's guilt, or else if you flip it the other way, a complete failure of the prosecution's case.
From looking at these discussions, it looks like it's because Higgins kind of came on too hard. He was looking for a lifelong commitment, whereas she was kind of flirting around. And so she sort of broke that off.
I wouldn't agree with that. When it was suggested to him that Karen Reid ghosted him, he looked hurt and offended by that. But that actually seems to be consistent with the evidence. But Higgins continued on with a brave base.
There's gaps in it. There's places where the video just drops out. And further, the video appears to have been inverted, which makes the officers look like they're not getting near this taillight.
Even if that was done accidentally, it looks bad to a jury. It looks bad to the public when they see these things and they say, wait a minute, why is this going on? Alina offered a counterpoint.
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