Axel Bouchon

negative connotation in the media that is not like really human to human interaction that we wanted to reproduce the data we have seen in our study that when you calmly talk to someone you're actually developing an interesting conversation because we're humans and that was literally

I mean, to me, huge surprise, very, very nicely reproduced.

So we had like 250 conversations and over 300 voice messages.

And we have not listened to all of them, but I think over 200, we have not found a single negative, aggressive conversation.

I think the connection to suicide rate is most probably a long conversation where we need an hour together.

But I think the key thing is indeed what you said, right?

If I can write something, I can be aggressive because I don't see the reaction, right?

And then if you just even look at what is shown in classical news channels, it's always like the peak of an aggression, right?

The escalation.

So we are selectively getting...

exposed to triggers for negativity what in our brain is triggering cortisol at its max and cortisol is like literally shutting down all the molecules that make us feel good it's like the ultimate stop signal for feeling good and and a normal conversation actually restarts these

Yeah, good spot.

The point is we have cortisol activities in the body and literally as a neurotransmitter modulator in our brain.

And in the brain, it has a very negative influence on our mood.

So indeed, our body gets up and needs it to get active.

But that is only a peak in the beginning of the morning.

but when we are chronically exposed to cortisol we get literally um molecularly blocked to experience good emotions and that was that was a little bit the experiment that we wanted to prove that even if you know just imagine you know you will call a republican you know you will call a democrat that actually maybe in the day before you were like eat these guys right

But then just when you start talking about the weather, when you talk about, hey, sandwiches, when you talk, I mean, this was the funny thing, like food was an interesting topic.

Hey, what are you doing?

And that was, I think, was really great.