Ayisha Osori

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194 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 20 Dec

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I mean, obviously, I'm happy to say I'd found out a bit more about this history before I read your book, but your book provided a lot more detail that I didn't have.
And I think for me, this ties into, because I think in describing your title, you've talked about the major themes of the book.
So coming to that last point you made about
Lots of Africans on both sides don't know this story.
I'm curious, when you were a child going to school in the U.S., did you learn about... I definitely didn't learn about the things that are in the second emancipation as a child growing up in Nigeria post-independence.
But did you learn about Toussaint Louverture and Haiti in school in the U.S.?
And the reason why I ask is because I'm curious about...
When you tell me your answer, what you think about the importance of education, about the history of racism, colonialism, imperialism in understanding the world order today.
And as I said, I asked this question because of my own lack of understanding racism.
having been educated in Nigeria, of structural racism, which meant that when I was in the US in the late 90s as a graduate of law from the University of Lagos, the truth is my position on African-Americans was largely the position of the imperialists and the racists, which is that, you know, African-Americans should pull themselves up by so-called bootstraps.
Thank you for that.
And again, perfect segue into this next question, which is about, you track, there's a very rich history of Pan-Africanism in the book, you know, starting with Martin Delany, Alexander Cromwell, Edward Blyden, W.E.B.
Du Bois, Hesley Hayford, and then the later Pan-Africanists like Padmore, Ezekiel, who you mentioned, Malcolm X, and so on.
What would you say is the current state of Black internationalism today, 2025?
Absolutely.
Thank you for that answer.
And you're right.
I mean, we see that interest, that lingering interest between African-Americans and the continent, at least with Ghana still, and this program of return and people coming back.
So you're right, but it just still somehow feels like more could be happening, should be happening.
But as you say, it's for...
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