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Ayman Mohyeldin

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325 total appearances

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Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

But nobody was talking about the collapse of the rules-based order from any of these Western world leaders over the last two years when we were watching the genocide in Gaza.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

So what AOC did was actually smart.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And I think that's part of the reason why young people in Europe, like young people here in the United States, are drawn to her.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

She speaks with a little bit of moral clarity.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And the issue of Taiwan is a political issue.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And perhaps there is some moral issue to it, but it's certainly a national security issue.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And so, as you said, she needs to kind of flush out that idea and see how the Taiwan issue fits into a moral foreign policy in which you could have had a very strong international rules-based order.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

Because she could have said, look, if we would have upheld

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

international rules and norms and order, we would have been able to have a much stronger alliance to say to China, you cannot overtake Taiwan with military force.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

But because the rules-based order has been eroded and destroyed for a variety of reasons, that idea of like the only way to defend other territory right now is purely by America committing troops.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And I think that's why that answer landed flat.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

The second part of the soundbite that you played, which was good, I think it was really important.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

But another soundbite that she talked about that was so important, which I think is why young people are drawn to her, is that she said the United States has effectively enabled the genocide in Gaza for the past two years without any restrictions on weapons to Israel.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And again, it's a moral litmus test.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And that's why when young people who are consuming news and are much more plugged into the world in a globalized way –

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

are listening and watching what is happening coming out of places like Sudan and Gaza and Congo.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

They're questioning what is happening at the highest levels of government.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

And when she talked about that, when she made that point and that connection between the United States' foreign policy and the genocide in Gaza,

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

I think that's why she has such an appeal and such a buzz.

Pod Save the World
507: AOC on the World Stage, Trump Starves Cuba

Could you potentially get a presidential candidate who is going to run on the major Democratic Party ticket and speak with such moral clarity and authoritative nuance on some of these issues?