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Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

As I argued, you need to add a risk premium to all of this.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

So call it 25%, so an 8% risk premium on that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

At 25%,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

OpenAI would need to turn into a company of a scale of $1.5 trillion by 2030.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

Now, that's a big, big company that is somewhere between Tesla, Broadcom, and Meta platforms, all established companies in the case of Meta and Broadcom, with really substantial revenues and quite low multiples.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

So my gut reaction to all of this was, there's no way this could be the case, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

That was what I was thinking while I was on my phone, walking home, did some mental maths, and I thought, hey, there's no way they can get there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

But when I sat down with Excel and a pencil and paper and went back over my own model of open AI, I started to think through whether that gut reaction was right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And so here's a bull case, just presenting a little bit of maths.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

Today, OpenAI's revenue run rate is approaching $12 billion per annum, and it's likely to end the year at an annualized rate that'll be closer to $20 billion.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

It's growing incredibly quickly.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

In 2023, it had revenues of about $1.6 billion.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

There have been a number of leaks of the investor decks that OpenAI has been shopping around to the capital markets.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And a recent one showed that they were forecasting $125 billion of revenue in 2029.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And actually, that was an increase on a previous leak, which had had that number of $100 billion.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And by 2029, they will finally be profitable.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

They'll be generating more than $12 billion of free cash flow.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

Later leaks suggested that even at the point at which they're raising revenues of $125 billion, they're still growing pretty quickly.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

What does that mean in terms of profits?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

Well, the leaks that I have seen, which have been in the mainstream media, don't talk about how