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Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So what you looked at in the report, one observation was that when people used the API, the system could do a 3.5 hour task, long task.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

In other words, a task a human might take 3.5 hours to do with a 50% success rate.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

But if they were using Claw.ai, that 50% success threshold was a 17-hour task, which is two workdays in Europe and, of course, one workday in the Bay Area.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I'm just quite curious about a few details there, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So what is a 17-hour human task and how much time were the humans having to do it?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Because it's really different if I just, you know, bark a command at Claude, who will rid me of this turbulent priest?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

and it goes off and does it for 17 hours versus I have to sit over the machine and every 30 minutes give it feedback.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Because in that case, I'm context switching and perhaps I can't really do other things.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So is it a 17 hour task or am I just pressing shift tab, accept, accept on my keyboard for the better part of a day?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And what is it about these multi-turn conversations that single shot can't achieve?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So I'm just curious.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So what is that task?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

How much is a human sitting over the machine pressing a button?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

It's quite a complicated picture because only a certain type of person with a certain experience can command a 17-hour or longer task.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Only a certain experienced person can make sense of whether a literature review is good or not.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

It's why PhD students have supervisors.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And so this is a tension in your findings I think is worth exploring.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Models are improving and people are trusting them with longer and harder tasks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

But judging those outputs does require real expertise.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

But there is this hollowing out because many of the junior tasks that have built that expertise are