Azeem Azhar

So when you look at that and you think about your own personal experience, how does this, you know, how do you address this hollowing out?

I think this is a really, really interesting point, question.

And I just want to dig into, Anthropic is one of the leading firms here in this space.

So you've obviously got this realization internally ahead of many other companies.

So what is a sense of things that are working in practice when you look at your junior team members and you think,

How do we get around the missing rungs in this ladder?

How do I help, you know, Junior Jenny and Starter Steve get those skills that I got through sort of sweating it through in late nights?

But you know, it does require some new novel thinking.

And, you know, in the corporate setting,

In a world where you, as a business, you can get something done quickly to stop and say to your employees, no, you've got to spend 10 hours reading slowly, requires a certain type of corporate culture.

I'll share with you a couple of things that we've done.

So this is my fountain pen.

I've never, I've not written as much

in by hand for 25 years, as I have in the last year.

We got the team fountain pens.

I do hope they're all using them because it slows you down with your writing.

They're really voracious readers.

And in fact, just yesterday, one of my researchers caught me out on the very famous Paul Romer economic growth paper, which I have not read for 10 years.

And he was sitting there reading it on a printout.

And I was thinking, gosh, I'm amazed he's even printed it out.