Azeem Azhar

to improve some simple processes is going to end up going.

And that casual usage is volatile.

Whereas when you're in the orchestration space, that deep integration matters.

So this observation is not about who's going to win the broad consumer.

That's a commercial question, Google versus OpenAI.

I'm sure that they will both have successful businesses here, but I'm really interested in who is really embedding this technology in their ways of working

in order to really, really maximize and expand their capacity.

If 99% of ChatGPT users are doing fewer than 283 queries in 2025, based on one Reddit post, maybe there's better data out there.

The number of people who are going into orchestration is very, very small.

And so the human job, though, exists.

It's really, really fun.

I'm super enjoying myself.

It's about architecture.

It's about establishing intent, asking, what am I trying to do?

It's verifying, have I got where I wanted to get to?

What have I learned on that process about things that I can extend?

And what is the expertise that I now need to know which agent to use which agent for which task?

I've gone from being an awful developer, many of you will know,

I was such a bad developer.

My development team begged me to stop writing code to being able to write quite good code and applying my judgment to it.