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Azeem Azhar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

stock market valuations drop, they can spill into the real world through wealth effects or some other dynamics.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

But it doesn't quite feel as overinflated as 99 because we can see the revenue flow into these businesses.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Yeah.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Well, I think that's really true.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And in fact, that is probably what we saw on Monday, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

When this Chinese model DeepSeek, it wasn't released.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

I mean, DeepSeek R1 had been around for a while.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

They declared they were doing it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

weeks, if not months ago, I had written about Deep Seek back in December 23.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And in December 2024, I said, Deep Seek is a Chinese Sputnik moment for the US.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

So that was before the new year, because I thought that...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

A lot of these stock market valuations have embedded within them the idea that the US will have a sustained AI dominance.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And sustained AI dominance will mean the best technology turning into the best product, turning into the fastest revenue growth, dragging forward with them the supply chain.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

So effectively, the demand for NVIDIA chips, ultimately AMD chips, and the manufacturing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And that bet was so concentrated.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

that, of course, any little wobble will have animal spirits running through that China shop.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Right, okay.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Okay, I hear that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

I'm going to stick on with this point because...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Here's where I think today is different to the dot-com.