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Azeem Azhar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
6838 total appearances

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And I'll start by telling you a story.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

So back in 97, 98, I was building internet companies.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And one of the companies that I invested in was a realtor, online realtor in France.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Of course, online real estate is a huge business now, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

You have Zillow and Redfin and a whole bunch of others.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

When we got into that market, not only did only 4% or 5% of French people have internet access, they were still largely on the Minitel system, but that 5% wasn't far advanced in other parts of Western Europe.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

None of the realtors had PCs.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And so when we went off to, or the founders went off to win business, they had to buy PCs for the realtors, train them on how to get onto the internet and how to upload their images and their inventory.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

I mean, it was a complete nightmare.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

The difference today is that every company or the large proportion of companies, particularly big ones,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

are sitting on a digital stack, which they've built over 20 years.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

All those billions of fees they paid to Accenture and PwC and SAP to do digital transformations means they've got a digital infrastructure.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And today it takes...

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

A single decision in Microsoft headquarters to put an AI tool into every copy of Microsoft Excel because it's all run on the cloud.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And that feels really different to 99.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

It feels like there's a whole set of hurdles that now don't exist that would allow a much more rapid deployment.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And with rapid deployment should come much faster increase in revenues.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Yeah, I feel that's right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Gemini from Google and Microsoft are all doing reasonable well.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

I mean, we do have the new players, but what's interesting about the configuration of the market is that each of the new players like OpenAI and Anthropic and others are really closely embedded with the last generation's giants.