Barack Obama

I mean, we've had so much incoming over the course of 10 years.

Now we chose it, or at least I chose it, as Michelle will point out.

And then she was subjected to it.

You do get a tougher skin.

But I understand how it's hard when suddenly your email or your –

phone is filled up with hostile, nasty, trolling garbage, right?

And you've gotten used to it too.

But I tell you, it's not like, we're not at the stage where you have to be like Nelson Mandela and be in a 10 by 12 jail cell for 27 years.

Not yet.

And break rocks.

We're not at that point.

Right now, there's just a little discomfort.

And so when I say, for example, if you're a law firm,

You know, you saying to, we're going to represent who we want and we're going to stand up for what we think is our core mission of upholding the law.

And maybe we'll lose some business for that, but that's what we believe.

That's what's needed.

If you're a university president, say, well, you know what?

This will hurt if we lose some grant money from the federal government, but that's what endowments are for.

Let's see if we can ride this out because what we're not going to do is compromise our basic academic independence.

If you're a business, you say, you know what?