Barack Obama
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We think it's important because of what this country is to –
hire people from different backgrounds.
And we're not going to be bullied into saying that we can only hire people or promote people based on some criteria that's been cooked up by Steve Miller.
We all have this capacity, I think, to take a stand.
And ultimately, this goes back to something I said earlier about convictions.
If convictions don't cost anything...
then they're really just kind of fashion.
They're not really conviction.
And I do think that our generation, yours and mine, Mark, because again, we're about the same age, we were so accustomed to things kind of getting better consistently over our lifetimes, a little less racist, a little less sexist, less homophobic, a little more generous, that
It was easy, I think, to say, well, yeah, I'm a progressive.
But it didn't really cost us anything.
We could take positions on things that we thought were correct.
But they were never really tested.
So, well, here's the test.
And I think, ultimately, a lot of people will pass.
But I think they haven't realized yet
No, we're being tested right now.
I think people, and that includes young people, right?
Understand there are consequences to the choices that we're making.
If you decide not to vote, that's a consequence.