Barack Obama

So, so it wasn't controversial for me to go to other countries and say, you know what?

It, it's a good idea for militaries to be under civilian control, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because, um,

When you have military that can direct force against their own people, that is inherently corrupting.

And so when you now start seeing the politicization of the military, deliberately, right?

They just landed in Chicago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When you have what looks like a deliberate end run around not just a concept, but a law that's been around for a long time, posse comitatus, that says, you know, you don't use our military on domestic soil unless there is an extraordinary emergency of some sort that

When you see an administration suggest that ordinary street crime is an insurrection or- Or a terrorist act.

Or a terrorist act, that is a genuine effort to weaken how we have understood democracy.

And that was understood by Democrats and Republicans.

I always try to, I mean, it's almost too easy of a thought experiment.

If I had sent in the National Guard into Texas and just said, you know what?

A lot of problems in Dallas.

A lot of crime there.

And I don't care what Governor Abbott says.

I'm going to kind of take over law enforcement because I think things are out of control.