Barack Obama
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reaffirming that stuff.
I think you were asking how I navigated some of these conflicts and I'd get attacked from the right and I'd get attacked from the left.
One way I did that was trying to tell people what I really thought.
But you know, the other thing was I actually had some pretty old fashioned values, even if I had, you know,
progressive or newfangled ideas.
If I talked about trans issues, I wasn't talking down to people and saying, oh, you're a bigot.
I'd say, you know what?
It's tough enough being a teenager.
Let's treat all kids decently.
Why would we want to
see kids bullied.
Why would we want to do that?
Why wouldn't we want to just, you know, what if it was our kid?
And I think spending more time talking about why those values are important, not being cynical about them, not being ironic about it.
But saying, no, no, that stuff matters.