Barrett Jackman

Like that, like that's how angry you were at the guy or were mostly them like net front battles in the, in the moment type of fights.

Yeah, it was, uh, well, I think in the moment there was some guys that I really hated that I knew maybe I'd go after them, but, uh,

Yeah, for the most part, it was either, you know, protecting my teammates or, you know, just maybe I'm not playing good.

So, you know, you got to get in a fight to try and make a difference.

Hate's a strong word.

Like, who were the guys you were like, I want to fucking kill this guy?

You.

Yeah, no.

You didn't get on the ice enough for me to exactly.

I remember one time I tried to get to the net on you and you boxed me out and I was like, fuck, I can't even get through this guy.

Yeah.

So that's when, that's when I knew we're old guy, right?

Yeah.

Andrew Shaw.

He was a guy that got under my skin at all times.

And, uh, yeah, he would never fight me.

And I, I think it was with, uh, he was either in Nashville or my last year in St.

Louis.

Uh, he, he finally looked at me and he smiled and he goes, okay, it's time.

I'll fight you now.