Barry Baines

But just in every day sitting down, it's something that's in the background.

And there's a way that I used to tell people, if you just do the breathing and you focus a little bit, you could actually feel your heart beating and you get sort of like a rhythm.

So, so Stan, the answer to your question is yes, but I was, you know, I didn't go other than that.

I recommend it.

And I could say, and you know, it's good when you could say, and this is what I do.

So it's not like I'm just telling you what to do.

I, you know, I'm doing it also, but I did have a couple of questions in this, the three-legged stool, the, the, or the trifecta.

between the physical, the breathing and the meditation.

I want to appreciate a little bit more, I find doing those things with music

is also i'm not talking about like hard rock music um you know when i was in a rock and roll band many years ago um but but there's certain types of music that seem to facilitate both the breathing and then met you know the meditation pieces of it and i'm just what you know because you know in classes i've taken they've usually had music or there would be a a bell

or some kind of audible transmission that either to help us focus

And again, the flow of it, the person I like to listen to is Carlos Nakai.

He's a Native American, and he plays this flute music.

And what I find myself doing with that is actually, as I'm breathing and meditating, I'm following the notes.

You know, it's kind of in my head, it's just, and that gets me away from a lot of other things.

But because I see also your guitars and other musical instruments there, could you maybe talk about the role or relationship between music and these meditative,

breathing and physical practices, if that's an okay question to ask.

No pun intended, right?

Well, I'm going to...

Jim, a bunch of things.