Barry Baines

And so I think the landscape for that has changed a bit.

If I was back, you know, we can't press the

the tapes to go back in time and then press the, let's do a redo.

Like we came on the show here.

If we need to, you know, edit stuff, we can't do that.

We only go through, we go through our lives once.

But it's interesting because I think if I were to, if I were to do it again, I would be much more knowledgeable about the impact of trauma on so many things.

You know, in people's lives.

And, you know, on the one hand, we're all, you know, let's not make any mistake.

The five of us on the show here right now, we all have our own traumas that we all, you know, deal with in our own ways.

Hopefully, we're learning to do it more healthily.

I guess, moving forward than not.

And I guess I'm struck by this idea of resilience, not as a way to explain away trauma.

Well, don't worry, Sam, as you were talking about.

Well, no, because we're resilient.

So the fact that

you know, we live with our trauma all the time and have it for 400 years.

I mean, on the good side, you survived, okay?

Well, see, I have a problem with that.

Right, right.