Barry Baines

Clarence at the 10,000 foot level, even though I'm afraid of heights.

We'll see where that goes.

But I think some of the things for me is the understanding that health in the United States, health in Minnesota is really global.

It's not just local.

And so the things I worry about are like drug shortages and

As an example for, you know, there are a lot of drugs where there's a shortage.

not even thinking or worrying about the impact of tariffs and costs of drugs, which is another whole issue right now, but just an actual shortage of drugs.

At a more personal level, not surprisingly being a healthcare provider or former healthcare provider in a direct way, a lot of my contacts are in the health field.

And the big anxiety for providers is not only the increased stress of burnout.

I think Matthew highlighted like he picked the perfect time to get it.

to get into public health just before COVID.

But this is just, you know, people have not, in the healthcare field, have not recovered yet from COVID.

And this is like piling on.

So I'm very worried about increased burnout within, you know, among healthcare providers, doctors, nurses, nursing assistants, just, you know, from top to bottom.

And then the other thing is that at a little bit higher level, there are so many people that are losing their jobs in these agencies, more in the public health sphere rather than direct care.

that really drive the engines of innovation in our healthcare system.

And so one example that I chatted about before we went on air is I have a relative who's receiving cancer treatment.

And what's going on now with a lot of the

funding for universities where a lot of cancer research really takes place.

Like I say, this relative is probably going to be needing to go into clinical trials.