Barry Lamb
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first heard Jan 2022
last heard Apr 2023
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He wrote the book on it, Concilium Primum.
a treatise on how to rightfully try animals in courts of law.
Underneath the set of legal principles and appeals to Roman law was an assumption that De Chazenu held.
Animals had legal rights and entitlements.
On today's show, we're bringing you stories of animals in court, past and present, to see what it might be like to live in a future where animals have legal rights.
What kind of rights and responsibilities would lions, pigeons, or our pet dogs have if we gave them their moral due?
And treat them as citizens who are different, but no less people than we are.
Producer Alec Opperman brings you the rest of the story of Tshazanu.
What I'm hearing Gabriel Rosenberg say, Alec, is that in addition to all the satanic, demonic possession stuff, it's because animals can't be controlled by humans and that they were a constant threat that made people see them as having agencies.
Right.
And the interesting thing about de Chazenot and medieval Europe is that today there are people who think this.
People who think animals have agency and personhood.
There are people who want to protect animals from humans.
Like they say, how awful we are that we harm all these animals who are more like us than we think.
But what's weird is that these kinds of animal rights advocates don't accept the flip side of agency, which is moral responsibility.
That's something they share with their opponents, the opponents of animal rights.
Both sides think taking an animal to court for a crime sounds ridiculous.
Alec, you came to me interested in animal trials because they're getting a revival today in the U.S., right?
Meaning animals are the ones suing or charging people for crimes against them.
calendar this morning is the cetacean community versus George W. Bush.
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