Barry Lamb

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Hi-Phi Nation · Zombies · 22 Jan 2022 podcast

My sense is that we're pretty close to having a philosophical zombie, assuming AI isn't conscious, because the language generation is getting pretty good.

When I look at GPT-3 and its renditions, it's not perfect.

You can kind of tell some of the times.

But if you're comparing it to...

really intelligent conscious agents, right?

But if you compare GPT-3 to the worst case of a speaker or a talker, but who is clearly conscious as a human being, it's almost there.

And then if you just add to it something like deep fake voices, I find a deep fake of your voice, and then just have it do GPT-3 when I'm interacting with it,

It's so easy to get to the point where, well, what's the difference between doing that and putting that in a human-like looking silicone machine thing?

There is no test of consciousness that comes just from interacting with an AI.

It can be unconscious and still act in exactly the same way as a conscious person.

Of course, it can also be conscious and also act the same way as a conscious person.

You have to go outside of interacting with the AI and look for some other features that make consciousness possible.

The problem is we have no idea what that is.

And when we have no idea, everything is up for grabs.

Eric Schwitzgabel, UC Riverside.

even if we don't treat them as genuinely equal, we don't treat all non-human animals as genuinely equal, but a lot of them are conscious.

Maybe even all of them are conscious.

We do bear some moral considerations of them, even if it's not equal.

Is that right?

Given this tragic dilemma, you actually propose a particular kind of way forward when it comes to building new AIs, right?

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