Barry Weiss

And that's just like their immediate connection. Do you think that that's beginning to fade? How do you move away from it? What do you say to people who say, yeah, cool, the underlying technology here might be awesome, but the whole industry seems awash with scammers and grifters?

A lot of our parents are still on those spam lists, Brian.

A lot of our parents are still on those spam lists, Brian.

A lot of our parents are still on those spam lists, Brian.

One of the other criticisms of crypto, and then I want to talk a little bit about your political evolution, is that it's used for just all the illicit things in culture, right? It's used for sex trafficking and drug cartels and like everything in like the darkest realms of society. And Elizabeth Warren obviously hits this theme a tremendous amount. Why is that wrong?

One of the other criticisms of crypto, and then I want to talk a little bit about your political evolution, is that it's used for just all the illicit things in culture, right? It's used for sex trafficking and drug cartels and like everything in like the darkest realms of society. And Elizabeth Warren obviously hits this theme a tremendous amount. Why is that wrong?

One of the other criticisms of crypto, and then I want to talk a little bit about your political evolution, is that it's used for just all the illicit things in culture, right? It's used for sex trafficking and drug cartels and like everything in like the darkest realms of society. And Elizabeth Warren obviously hits this theme a tremendous amount. Why is that wrong?

Like respond to that broad criticism. So like in my mind, there's sort of two core criticisms of crypto that seem to stick in people's minds. One is the fraudsters and the grifters like SBF. And the other is that the people that really use crypto are bad criminally people who we want, who we don't want to give access to lots and lots of money to be able to do the bad things that they do.

Like respond to that broad criticism. So like in my mind, there's sort of two core criticisms of crypto that seem to stick in people's minds. One is the fraudsters and the grifters like SBF. And the other is that the people that really use crypto are bad criminally people who we want, who we don't want to give access to lots and lots of money to be able to do the bad things that they do.

Like respond to that broad criticism. So like in my mind, there's sort of two core criticisms of crypto that seem to stick in people's minds. One is the fraudsters and the grifters like SBF. And the other is that the people that really use crypto are bad criminally people who we want, who we don't want to give access to lots and lots of money to be able to do the bad things that they do.

How much of crypto is actually used for the kinds of things that Elizabeth Warren is constantly talking about?

How much of crypto is actually used for the kinds of things that Elizabeth Warren is constantly talking about?

How much of crypto is actually used for the kinds of things that Elizabeth Warren is constantly talking about?

After the break, Brian Armstrong tells us how he stood up against the mob in his own workplace by saying, no politics here. Stay with us. Brian, long before I knew anything about crypto, and I'm still a newbie when it comes to the topic that dominates your life, although I'm trying to learn more, you came on my radar because you did something really radical in September of 2020.

After the break, Brian Armstrong tells us how he stood up against the mob in his own workplace by saying, no politics here. Stay with us. Brian, long before I knew anything about crypto, and I'm still a newbie when it comes to the topic that dominates your life, although I'm trying to learn more, you came on my radar because you did something really radical in September of 2020.

After the break, Brian Armstrong tells us how he stood up against the mob in his own workplace by saying, no politics here. Stay with us. Brian, long before I knew anything about crypto, and I'm still a newbie when it comes to the topic that dominates your life, although I'm trying to learn more, you came on my radar because you did something really radical in September of 2020.

Now, given the vibe shift, it seems hilarious that this seemed so radical. But what you did is you basically said, no politics in the workplace. And if you want to bring politics into the workplace at Coinbase, you should go work somewhere else. you received a tremendous amount of blowback for this decision.

Now, given the vibe shift, it seems hilarious that this seemed so radical. But what you did is you basically said, no politics in the workplace. And if you want to bring politics into the workplace at Coinbase, you should go work somewhere else. you received a tremendous amount of blowback for this decision.

Now, given the vibe shift, it seems hilarious that this seemed so radical. But what you did is you basically said, no politics in the workplace. And if you want to bring politics into the workplace at Coinbase, you should go work somewhere else. you received a tremendous amount of blowback for this decision.

And I was sort of like going back and looking at your, maybe it's unfair to say it this way, and you'll tell me if it's not fair, but this political evolution really that you've gone through. Because I went back a little bit before that, and June of 2020, you sounded a lot like a lot of other CEOs and founders when you tweeted in the wake of George Floyd's death that, I've decided to speak up.