Barry

And Diana, happily, you mentioned the G word goal, because that that was that's the thing that I'm trying to figure out is we're on this continuum.

It's like we're mapping out a continuum, wishes, dreams.

My vocabulary oftentimes equates goals closer with dreams, although it's a matter of scope.

I dream of world peace.

That's a very global thing.

Whereas the patient that Stan talked about,

I dream of being pain-free.

My medical interpretation of that would be, what are the steps needed to have the goal of being pain-free?

So sometimes it's a matter of

of scope.

And because you do life and business coaching, I'm going to bring in the health part of it, because it's health as relates to a person's either ability or disability that I could see potentially can get in the, you know, can be a barrier to achieving

whether it be goals and dreams.

But I just want to make sure, when I talk about goals, is that the same context that you use with people and kind of stating what their dream is?

Or is dreams a bit more expansive than goals, which can still be long-term goals, but I don't know, just seem more...

less creative and more practical.

Whereas when I think of dreams, I think of more creativity and kind of expanding.

So I'm going to just toss that fuzzy ball over to you to see what, can you help us with, you know, kind of sorting through some of that?

Well, I think that Diana has the secret sauce, which really is that in having a dream, dreams still are like clouds in a way.

And you really need to get clarification.

And it's really like peeling an onion to get more down to the core, to the nuggets, the things that can actually help to fulfill those dreams.