Stan, Clarence, Barry, and the Health Chatter team chat with Diana Sabreen, founder of The Big Dream, about how our dreams - both big and everyday - shape our health, creativity, and sense of purpose. Diana brings a refreshingly unconventional path to her work - opting for sunlit cliffs and cross-continental adventures instead of fluorescent lights and cubicles. Her life has been guided by curiosity, creativity, and a belief that joy and self-expression are essential to wellness. As a longtime artist, activist, and coach, she helps people break free from societal “shoulds” and reconnect with the boldest version of their lives.Join us for an insightful conversation about what it means to live your Big Dream—and how imagination, adventure, and intention can impact your mental and physical health.Learn more aboout Diana and The Big Dream here.Join the conversation at healthchatterpodcast.comBrought to you in support of Hue-MAN, who is Creating Healthy Communities through Innovative Partnerships.More about their work can be found at https://www.huemanpartnershipalliance.org/
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's show is on dreams. And this should be really interesting as it relates to health. And we're going to try to make that connection with a wonderful guest. And I'll introduce her in a minute. We've got a great crew. that keeps us alive and kicking as it relates to getting the shows out to you, the listening audience.
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So thanks again to everybody. Today, we're talking about dreams and we have a wonderful guest with us. Her name is Diana Zabrin. And, you know, we met, I'll tell you the background for everybody. We met down in Costa Rica, in the middle of a Costa Rican jungle. And she was part of the crew there that was keeping us, all the people that came to this retreat in line.
And I was really, really struck by Diana's creativity. And we can get into that too. But one of the things that she was able to do is get us, a group of us, thinking about what, Our dreams are. And she asked us, and I've got mine here. I've got it right here. It's right here. Okay. So she asked us this question. I'll share with the audience here my dream. Okay. She asks us, what's your big dream?
And write it down. Okay, you remember this, Diana? Okay, very clearly, right? Okay, so here's mine. All right. I want my mental health to be in sync with my physical health, now and ongoing. And I want all my connections, like family and friends, the activities I do, et cetera, to support it. Okay.
Now I will say this, everybody had different angles on their dreams, you know, what they, what they were dreaming about and what they wanted to wish or dream on. The next question is you asked, well, why is that your dream? You know, I think that was the why there was the why behind it. So then I added this ready. It will make the rest of my years.
enlightening and happy and connected in new ways then you asked these are the questions right what's holding you back okay um or slowing you down i guess was another way of saying it um
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Chapter 2: How do dreams influence our health and creativity?
What is your belief system that within you is holding yourself back, right? How are you getting in your own way? So to me, I feel like the, a wish can be a seed of a dream. But a wish makes it, kind of sound like it's unattainable and takes the personal responsibility off of creating it.
Yeah. So, you know, from a health standpoint, I mean, you know, Clarence is involved, you know, in the community a lot. And, you know, there's kind of like these big dreams, like, you know, world peace. Okay. Or, you know, it's like I call, you know, what I wish for or dream.
about a worldwide chill out day you know where everybody would just chill out for one day just give it a try and see see what happens but let me let me let me tell you about a story that just happened frankly this week so i saw a couple of orthopedic patients this week and um One of them was an 85-year-old woman who said to me, you know, after she had her knee surgery done, she said, I dream.
Get a load of this. I dream about time that I have that is pain-free. I dream about that. Okay, which I thought was really amazing. Interesting. And so, you know, I was able to say, well, hopefully your dream is going to come true, you know? And so I see that as being kind of a short kind of a dream, a quick, maybe a quick kind of thing that you can, your dream comes true. Okay.
Whereas there's other dreams that have this long, long tail to them that it's a process of maybe getting to. So maybe you can reflect on that a little bit.
Yeah, well, the health stuff is hard because that seems to actually be a place where we have, to some extent, a lack of control. And there are things we can do about it, right? There's physical remedies. There are spiritual, mental remedies that we can work towards. But that's where it gets a little bit tricky to just make something happen or not happen, even if we do the work.
And, you know, you're talking about like National Chill Out Day, right? Yeah. And that is... International. International, yeah. International Chill Out Day or like, you know, every other day, honestly. I mean, I think that busyness in our society is a bit of a disease, which could be a whole other podcast episode.
Yeah.
But if you're having health issues... You might have these dreams and you aren't necessarily able to just get up and do the things that you need to do or that you want to do to make these dreams happen, right? To get yourself pain free, to create a business, to travel the world, whatever the thing is. And so you have to really accept that international chill out day.
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Chapter 3: What personal experiences shaped Diana's understanding of dreams?
And then only gets easier.
So another thing I want to bring into this is what makes dreaming easier. So for instance, we were in the middle of the jungle and we were doing yoga, right? And we were meditating. And so my question is, are people more inclined to dream when they're in those meditative States or in the relaxing, taking deep breaths States, as opposed to, you know, running around ragged.
Yeah. I think it could eliminate a lot of clutter for sure. Um, and being on a retreat in particular, it gets you out of your patterns. It gets you out of your systems. It gets you thinking differently for better or for worse and can be challenging. Um,
I also think that humans might be a little bit, I don't know if it's American culture or humans in general are a little bit addicted to, Oh, I need to, I have to go on this retreat in order to, to renegotiate re-evaluate. Right. And that's great if you can do that and you can afford it or take a week off or, or get there physically or whatever.
Um, but there's also lots of little retreat type things you can do.
in your life right you can um listen to a song and see how it moves you you can light a candle and sit there and look at it for five minutes you can put your phone down and listen to the birds um and it's funny i'm i'm i'm a really funny mix i'm a very motivated make things happen in the world kind of kind of person and then i also
I'm a thousand percent happy to be like sitting in a hammock with a ukulele. And oftentimes when people ask me, what's my big dream, I'm like, it's sitting in a hammock with a ukulele on the beach without mosquitoes, obviously. Right. So there's like, there's that rest that we need and that rest can look like whatever you want. Um, but also the retreat that we were on, right.
You're bringing back in the concept of community. and collaboration and a container. And even if you're not even if you weren't in charge of the collaboration, you still got to be part of it, right? Like you were part of that you were part of creating that experience for me, right? If you weren't there, I would have had a different experience.
If I wasn't there, you would have had a different experience. Yeah. So collaboration doesn't always have to look like doing big things. Yeah, I had I had another thought, but it went away.
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