Bart Butler
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 16 Jul
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I obviously believe in his leadership.
I wouldn't still be here after 11 years.
That said, I think one thing that sometimes happens with visionaries is they need to surround themselves with people who will challenge them when they get maybe a little too far over their skis or to also make sure that...
We have ideas from other places.
One thing that we that we really try to make sure is that, you know, ideas are judged on their merits, not who not not not their origin necessarily.
Right.
We have a senior leadership team, which whose job is to, yes, execute, but also, you know, bring new ideas and sell them and things like this.
We try.
I'm not going to say that we always that we're perfect in this.
We have plenty of things that we can improve, but, you know, we try to push decision making down the orgs.
The whole point of an organization
is that you have um it's a way to align lots of different people in the same direction right and the trick is always how do you get alignment in the same general direction while still having autonomy so that you're not micromanaging everything and i'm not saying we always get the balance right but that's the goal here and when you know we do this sort of orientation when we hire new people into proton and one of the things one of the things we always say there is like i want to hear
you're not used to our way of doing things yet.
So I want you to look at our way of doing things.
And if you've experienced another employer or you think this is either crazy or inefficient, I want you to tell us, right?
And we're very clear.
Yes, of course, we have a hierarchy, but it's level.
And part of this is our size, of course, but we very rarely have more than
say three or four levels of management.
And we always say, look, if you need to ping me, you need to ping the CEO, you need to directly talk to people, just do it.
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