Bart Butler
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 16 Jul
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So I think there's a trade-off to be made here.
And we can discuss what the trade-off is, but the trade-off should not be that we make the entire system transparent to whoever wants to look.
Because there are some really bad people who want to look.
And even if you think that the government will never be that bad person, which...
Okay, seems naive, but, you know, even if you think that's the case, there's all kinds of cyber criminals and everywhere else.
And those backdoors that, or vulnerabilities, I guess vulnerabilities are more easily backdoors, but those vulnerabilities that have been found or introduced in cryptography.
have that have a long history of being exploited by bad actors right i mean the the history that this is clear it's impossible to have a back door that can't be exploited by just except for the people who it's intended for so i i think there are other ways to do this i think we we need to describe those other ways i think maybe this is missing from the conversation right if there's other technical solutions to mitigate the harm what would they look like
A lot of it would be getting in the weeds about how to do things.
But for instance, there's such a thing as zero-knowledge proofs, which basically involve the ability to prove that I am over 18 without actually giving you any other information about it.
There's actually multiple ways to do that, some of which don't involve zero-knowledge proofs.
But these are a far cry from, you know, Discord got in trouble, I forget, a month or two ago from...
having a security breach, they did age verification and then they had a, I forget what it was, some sort of open S3 bucket or something with tons of people's IDs and stuff.
This is not the right way to do it, but I guarantee you that people will do this wrong.
If every website has to collect your ID, we are in deep, right?
So there are ways to have issuers, have say a trusted person issue you an ID.
It can be a local credential.
It can be a credential, and it can also be a credential that's stored in the cloud, but in an encrypted way, so the server can't see what the credential is, and then have your device selectively disclose age over 18.
The site that you go to requires that.
It doesn't have to be
This is your address.
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