Bart Butler

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681 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 16 Jul

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The techie cohort is our core, of course, and has been since the beginning.

But there's a whole cohort of people who trust Proton because other people they know.

And by know, I mean it might just be people who they trust on Reddit, right?

But other people they know say Proton is there.

And we've all been getting object lessons in that rules, bylaws, laws, other things are...

can be worth something, but personnel really matters, right?

Who enforces them really matters.

So we have the technical layer, which is designed to constrain what we can do technically.

And then we also have the legal, the corporate structure layer, which is, it's defense in depth, right?

All of these things are interlocking guarantees to our users that we are trustworthy.

And ultimately, that's the most important thing about the business.

We don't disclose direct financials.

Mail and VPN are the two oldest products.

And as you might expect, they are the two largest products still.

But we also have a lot of people who buy bundles and buy multiple products.

We try to make the products work well together in an ecosystem.

Some products are more tightly bound than others.

And the new products, the more recent ones, Calendar is very tightly tied with mail, of course, but we also have Drive and Pass.

Those are not as big as the older products.

They have less of a head start, if you will, but they are growing rapidly.

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