Batia Ungar Sargan

So it really all depends on what happens next.

But again,

Never doubt the president's understanding of where his base is, regardless of what some high profile isolationist podcasters try to tell you.

Do you know what's interesting?

I don't think the president is looking for a total regime change.

I think he wants exactly what he got in Venezuela, which wasn't actually an extreme regime change, right?

That would have been installing Maria Machado.

That's what the Bush era folks would have done.

And the president, Marco Rubio, said, no, we actually don't want chaos here.

And if we do that, we risk...

a coup d'etat.

We risk the generals getting angry.

We're going to keep Dulce Rodriguez, who was Maduro's number two, and just say to her, you like this job?

How about being a little bit more pro-America?

That's what we're here for.

And I think they're pursuing the exact same thing in Iran.

They're not trying to install somebody who the West would love.

They're saying, we need to get the nuclear threat off.

We need to get rid of the threat to the United States, to our children and grandchildren.

And the rest is really up to the Iranian people.