Becky Hadid

no waste, a garden, these kinds of sort of old fashioned, but maybe we shouldn't be so quick to denigrate values.

I mean, it's because it was difficult.

It's because it was sad that it was memorable and impressive and instructive to you.

Do you know anything about when you appeared in her story, how that struck her?

Is that something she would tell and retell to you?

My mother, yes.

It is nice.

That's a gift for her.

This cake was a...

connecting point for you guys for sure but it sounds like you shared a lot as well including a love of art and well just a path of entrepreneurship do you draw a direct line between yourself as an artist and an entrepreneur to her or do you see it as a disconnected thing that you just kind of shared tangentially I'd say tangentially it's hard to say as in like

It's something you both happen to do.

What kind of artist was your grandmother?

Are you an artist?

It does.

Do you think art was like that for your grandmother or sort of more of a hobby or was it like this cathartic thing for her?

I enjoyed it.

Even creativity had to be relegated to certain times of the day.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Oh.

It does seem like it was certainly a very powerful way she connected to other people.