Ben Affleck

You feel it when you're watching.

Yes.

If it does that thing and it pulls you in, then it's happening.

Other human beings recognize human beings experiencing real shit.

Yes.

They really do.

It's like these mirror neurons.

Yeah, exactly.

But the other thing that's really interesting from our side of doing it, because he and I have talked about this a lot, is, and I've always said publicly, like, great actors are good enough for both of you.

Like, when you're in a scene with a great actor,

that thing that Ethan's talking about, that hypnosis or whatever you want to call it, that energy, that place where you go, right?

They're bringing you right with it.

It's like a fucking tractor beam.

They will suck you right in with them.

And like as quickly as you look into their eyes and you're like, you're like just there.

And it's like riding the easiest wave you've ever ridden in your life.

It can be the hardest thing in the world and it can be the easiest thing in the world.

When you're with a great actor, it's just, if the scene's,

The reason that it was real, I like that scene.

The reason it works, I think, is because he's coming at me