Ben Domenech

And I feel like that's a starting point, but yeah.

What's the line from Mithipia?

We make still by the law in which we're made?

Correct.

We make still by the law in which we're made.

And so the idea is that because we are created, our desire, our natural tendency is to create.

Yeah, it's our nature.

Yeah, and I think, you know, if folks have trouble understanding kind of what Tolkien means by this, I think you can do no better than to go to Chapter 2 of The Silmarillion and the story of Aule making the dwarves.

And the way that he is making in imitation of his maker, you know.

And he is trying to do this because Iluvatar has created Aule with this...

with this spirit that he just wants to create.

So he goes out and creates the dwarves.

Yeah.

He even explains it that way when he's called on the carpet, like, okay, this was a mistake, but it came from a place of wanting to reflect what you've put into me, you know?

Yeah.

It's really good stuff.

Tom, feel free to jump in here.

You've got something you want to throw in.

Yes, you're talking about creation as being something that only the Creator can do.

I learned something the other night that I just thought was really, really cool.