Ben Greenfield

So it's like the early warning signs are tired and wired, elevated heart rate, elevated body temperature, but then, and lack of appetite, but then long-term it's like everything just starts to shut down and then you're cold and you're sluggish and your metabolism starts to slow.

This is something I'm always like a little bit disappointed

cautious to talk about.

Cause I think more people, maybe not your audience.

I don't know.

I, for the most part, more people need to hear like move more, eat less, lose weight.

And there's like, there's fewer people that need to hear.

Don't go to the gym.

It's a big, scary place.

And you're going to die of cortisol.

Over-training.

Yeah.

I mean, that is an issue with some people.

And I am serious that more people need to hear that because this is like back to the root of your question about mistakes that people make.

People sometimes grasp at straws that aren't that important or try to fry a fish that isn't that big of a fish that you need to fry.

Right.

And even though I love what is going on to a certain extent in Washington, D.C.

with Make America Healthy Again, the Maha campaign and increasing awareness of like what's in our food and what ingredients are in the food supply.

Right.

I think there's a lot of people almost like myopically focusing on artificial sweeteners and food dyes and even seed oils to a certain extent as being like the biggest problems when really like if we just told more people, kids especially, like get outside, move more, exercise more, eat less calories, understand the difference between how many calories are in, I don't know, like a