Ben Greenfield

Costco hot dog and a salad.

Like those are the things that we need to be focusing on more.

I'm not saying there's not some problems with whatever petroleum in an ingredient, artificial sweeteners, but it's not that big of an issue, especially when it comes to weight loss.

Like if I was coaching somebody for weight loss, I would much rather they be having like a sucralose acesulfamine potassium infused like stick packet that's 25 calories that makes them say like,

not stuff their face with an extra 600 calories because they're drinking some satiating synthetic compound, then I would have them be like, nope, that has artificial sweeteners in it.

So I'm just going to go eat six apples.

Like at the end of the day, like there is a calories in calories out consideration of this stuff.

Yeah, or just like if I'm on an airplane and they're bringing out the airplane food, I'll have a Diet Coke just because I don't think about the airplane food.

Yeah.

And then I'm not going to drink like, well, technically the law of diminishing returns for carcinogenicity of Diet Coke is like 77 of them in one sitting, like before you get into the cancer-causing domain.

Yeah, not a lot of people.

And more, like granted, there's more recent research showing that the equivalent of two to three cans can cause anxiety.

like in rodent models and it was weird because they even showed like anxiety that gets passed on to the offspring maybe maybe aspartame is like affecting genetics and sperm in some way but again like it's a pretty far cry to correlate that to rodent models and then tell somebody you know diet coke is going to make you fat and unhealthy like it's it's they're a bigger fish to fry

What do you think of that?

Well, I mean like the OG ones, like the as seen on TV, like six pack abs with the, like the stomach pulsing.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the original ones were like the abs.

And for me, as somebody who like appreciates the value of hard work and blood, sweat and tears and like getting the job done in the gym, I always thought it was kind of gimmicky.