Ben Greenfield

And I had a great deal of free time to

in a spirit of curiosity, like, exploring the things that I was truly interested in.

And now that's even more called, like, unschooling than homeschooling.

And the idea of just, like, an experiential education where maybe you're not taking geometry and math, but you're, like, building a tree for it and learning woodworking and angles and arithmetic and whatever, doing that.

Or, you know, like in the case of my sons, rather than taking a formal course on...

logic or rhetoric or conflict resolution, like you're going to design a card game where a lot of those things are woven into the game.

And my interest in this led to me interviewing a bunch of parents, just like as my sons were going through their formative years of life, all these cool entrepreneurs I knew with impactful children,

many of whom were, like, proven successful models, because the kids had grown up and they started their own companies.

So I did, like, the Tim Ferriss tools of titans type of thing, and I sent all these parents the identical list of, like, 30 questions.

Like, how did you discipline them?

What did you do when the spouses disagreed on,

something related to a child's upbringing and how did you educate and if you did public education like did you customize that in any way that allowed your kids to do some other things and you know what kept you awake at night and so that became like this anthology i learned a ton writing that book and then i learned about the legacy piece not the stereotype but um the like we went down to utah because

It turns out like the LDS Church and the Mormons are really good like genealogy and like passing on values and like, I know Mormons, like no names are great, great, great, great grandfathers.

And there was this, there was this foundation called the legato family foundation down there.

Rich Christensen, we spent like three days in his cabin and he was just like feeding us through the fire hose, like all the things that they did, build legacy and how they created these constitutions.

All the way down to just like the financial piece of it, like, you know, starting a whole life health insurance policy on each member of the family and then doing paid up additions to that.

So you have like a family bank that you can borrow money against and pass on financial wealth.

And, you know, when you start the Roth IRA for the kids and just like all of these different pieces of the puzzle.

So between writing the book and then learning from this Legato Foundation, that's kind of like how a lot of that came to be.

That's impressive, man.