Ben Greenfield

I never did like drug, drug just because I couldn't afford them.

You know, I was like a poor college student doing creatine and tuna fish, putting relish in the tuna fish to keep it low carb and like, you know, dipping hot dogs in peanut butter.

I mean, just like the cheapest calories I could get away with.

But...

Then there's also certain pre-workouts.

You're like, oh, what happens to the body?

I've added 10 grams of creatine instead of five.

And then going from that into Ironman triathlon, where you're just trying out a whole bunch of different things to survive out there for 10 hours.

And then open water swimming and adventure racing and obstacle course racing.

A big part of it for me has been

like fueling and feeding extreme sports and using that as like a testing ground and then eventually for me just like being you know an influencer and a podcaster and an author it's it's a little bit of my prerogative now to just try things out to be able to report back from almost like an immersive journalistic standpoint about what what works

No, no.

So I think it's a good idea.

If you look at, for example, the habits of many of the founding fathers, and there's a great book about this called The Pursuit of Happiness.

one of the things that that many of them and many high achievers and successful people value the most is time and if you value time as much as if not more than money then you do plan out your days pretty strictly like in terms of habit and routine and structure

and i am a creature of habit in that sense but i also from like a long-term business standpoint keep myself pretty open to opportunities not meaning i say yes to everything i say no to a lot but i have never for better or worse had a 10-year plan of where i want to be from a business and a career standpoint

Because I find that if I structure my days to be highly effective and efficient to do lots of deep work to not further away a lot of time, you know, doom scrolling and non social media and engaging with pop culture, I can get a lot done.

And when the opportunities come my way that I feel like I want to seize, I've got the ability to be able to seize them.

And so no, like I never had a plan of like,

having a podcast for a long time or writing a bunch of books.