Ben Greenfield

It's kind of like stem cells.

If

If you were to go to that place in Utah that I went to and get a full body stem cell procedure, you get all aches and pains from all the old injuries that the stem cells just like reinitiate.

Your body remembers all that inflammation.

The stem cells go to battle to help to fix those areas that were never fully fixed.

Whereas kind of similar with something like psychedelics, they open up memories of these traumas that you just haven't given yourself a chance to deal with in the past and open them up when your brain is in a state where it's far more receptive to seeing those things in a new light and dealing with them.

Comes down to the getting dropped off by a helicopter at the top of Mount Everest piece rather than learning how to climb Mount Everest.

You have to get to a point where you understand that that life is full of incidents that cause shame and guilt and fear.

And there will always be times in your life when things come up that leave you feeling

less worthy, leave you feeling full of shame, leave you feeling guilty about something you've done or about something someone's done to you.

And one of the ways to deal with that is to write a check, get on a plane, pop a pill, and try to nuke it once again.

And now I'm speaking from a very biased perspective because I'm also a man of faith.

And I believe that...

And this is what I love about the Christian faith in particular is that is a faith of forgiveness, meaning no matter what you've been through, no matter how

of a person you think you are, no matter how horrible the things are that have been done to you.

The Jesus Christ figure in Christianity is there because the story of Christianity is that God sent a sacrificial lamb to die on the cross

which was a very painful thing to happen.

But that happened so that we can then take all that shame and fear and guilt and just let it go by, for example, just dropping to our knees and praying that God would release it and laying all of that at the foot of the cross.

There's a beautiful book about this called Pilgrim's Progress by this guy that was just struggling with this huge backpack, this burden for years.

And then in a part of the story, he gets to the base of this hill where there's a cross and all of a sudden the heavy burden just comes tumbling off his back and he stands up and he's light and he's free.