Ben Greenfield

Is it for a long period of time or just like- No, it's just like it's your pace.

Okay.

Step count is important.

The 10,000 thing was literally not based on any research at all.

It's just like it came out of- For real?

It was like some Japanese article or in the newspaper.

I forget the whole story about it, but it wasn't actually based on any kind of clinical research that people who walked- Sounds sexy though, right?

Yeah, and newer research shows it's about 7 to 8K.

That's more achievable.

You still get benefits once you go above that, but if you can hit 7 to 8K, that's where you trigger the decreased all-cause risk of mortality.

Wow.

And then if you do it fast, whether training yourself with one of those metronomes or walking on a trail.

Dreadmill or doing anything that makes you walk.

way i think about it is like walk a little bit faster than your brain wants you to walk yeah and and it's correlated with longevity i naturally do it because my dad wouldn't stop when we would hike when i was a kid yeah he wouldn't he wouldn't stop walking so i had to keep up with him yeah yeah so it was a bit of a traumatic thing but yeah yeah we did the same thing my wife and i both hike fast we walk fast and now it bites me in the butt because same thing with our kids when they were two or three years old like i said i keep up and so now when i go for a walk with my sons it's too fast

I'm talking like eight.

It wasn't actually based on any kind of clinical research that people who walk- Sounds sexy though, right?

And newer research shows it's about seven to eight K. That's more achievable.

You still get benefits once you go above that, but if you can hit seven to eight K-

That's where you trigger the decreased all-cause risk of mortality effect.

Wow.