Ben Greenfield

And then if you fast, right, whether training yourself with one of those, like, metronomes or walking on a treadmill or doing anything that makes you walk.

The way I think about it is, like, walk a little bit faster than your brain wants you to walk.

Yeah.

and it's correlated with longevity.

So it was a bit of a traumatic thing.

Yeah, we did the same thing.

My wife and I both hike fast, we walk fast, and now it bites me in the butt because same thing with our kids.

When they were two or three years old, they said, I keep up.

And so now when I go for a walk with my sons, it's too fast.

Yeah, that's a good trick.

That's kind of cool.

Yeah, there's this device called a counter pulse.

And in a hospital setting, if you had like a heart surgery or a severe cardiovascular issue, they use something called enhanced external counter pulsation.

It's like this thing that you lay in almost like one of those circulation suits and kind of compresses and relaxes

based on the diastolic emptying phase of your heart.

And this counter pulse is basically just like a heart rate strap, and then it syncs to your headphones, and it gives you a little click or metronome-like sound time.

Diastolic, so you can actually walk and, like, pump your heart while you're walking.

And then you kill two birds with one stone, because it also kind of keeps you on pace.

Holy crap.

I owned one.