Ben Kissel

And then when you hit the crank, it lowers the inner working so the guy that's in the closed box can crawl into this thing underneath Isis that has this little keyboard in which you try to play the zither by looking through this little slot.

with this keyboard so that's why it sounds like that because the guy can barely fucking see and he's trying to do it from the inside in this weird cockamamie like thing that shit that's still going on today I went to the magic castle last night oh cool oh you went last night I went last night I just randomly was there I'm thinking about the whole episode today but um where'd you go with where'd you go with with your wife no I didn't go with your wife I named no wife I named a wife

Yeah.

I love the close magic.

All the close magic is my favorite things.

But yeah, they definitely will touch your wife.

Magicians, you can't trust them.

Yep, they make their panties disappear.

Kenneth Anger, to me, is also the exact reason why Anton LaVey was really interested more in getting into the movies.

Which is also full of lies.

It is.

Their real love was the collection of those stories about Hollywood.

Yeah, that was their real time passing that they would do.

Just talking about all these old ideas of like conspiracy theories, like old ideas of like Cecil B. DeMille, like having like a girl mill and like having all these things like if you ever read Hollywood Babylon, it's so entertaining.

San Francisco was still cooler.

Now, Order of the Trapezoid, Natalie and I, I had made...

order of the trapezoid pendants for us to wear, right?

And order of the trapezoid all comes from William Montgomery.

The idea of what it's considered to be magical interest and the idea of a trapezoidal shape, which is what he uses.

But again, it was just the drinking group.