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Ben Lindbergh

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The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Even if part of the point of the game and the story is just as Ellie can't avoid getting sucked into this cycle of violence and revenge, we can't either. But she has a choice in universe and we don't really unless we want to just stop playing the game entirely, which is an option, I guess. And maybe it says something that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Even if part of the point of the game and the story is just as Ellie can't avoid getting sucked into this cycle of violence and revenge, we can't either. But she has a choice in universe and we don't really unless we want to just stop playing the game entirely, which is an option, I guess. And maybe it says something that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

Even if part of the point of the game and the story is just as Ellie can't avoid getting sucked into this cycle of violence and revenge, we can't either. But she has a choice in universe and we don't really unless we want to just stop playing the game entirely, which is an option, I guess. And maybe it says something that.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The enjoyment we're deriving from playing and killing everyone indiscriminately ultimately trumps whatever distaste we have and feel for the character's actions. We still want to keep going. So, you know, I had my issues with that takeaway too, but it at least left you really thinking. And I just wonder whether...

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The enjoyment we're deriving from playing and killing everyone indiscriminately ultimately trumps whatever distaste we have and feel for the character's actions. We still want to keep going. So, you know, I had my issues with that takeaway too, but it at least left you really thinking. And I just wonder whether...

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

The enjoyment we're deriving from playing and killing everyone indiscriminately ultimately trumps whatever distaste we have and feel for the character's actions. We still want to keep going. So, you know, I had my issues with that takeaway too, but it at least left you really thinking. And I just wonder whether...

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

the decisions that we see in this season will have the same stake power, but we will find out. And ultimately, I think I'm happy to have both versions because as we keep saying, I don't want it to be exactly the same. What's the point of that? We have the game already and people can take their pick if one is more to their liking. And I like the way that they're kind of blending the two.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

the decisions that we see in this season will have the same stake power, but we will find out. And ultimately, I think I'm happy to have both versions because as we keep saying, I don't want it to be exactly the same. What's the point of that? We have the game already and people can take their pick if one is more to their liking. And I like the way that they're kind of blending the two.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

the decisions that we see in this season will have the same stake power, but we will find out. And ultimately, I think I'm happy to have both versions because as we keep saying, I don't want it to be exactly the same. What's the point of that? We have the game already and people can take their pick if one is more to their liking. And I like the way that they're kind of blending the two.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And it's fascinating to talk about. I think like I really enjoyed discussing this stuff, even if ultimately I sort of side with one over the other. And yeah, I was also thinking about the fact, you know, it's kind of funny that the two major moments of the end of the first game slash season and the start of the second game slash season are kind of contrived from a plot perspective, in a sense.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And it's fascinating to talk about. I think like I really enjoyed discussing this stuff, even if ultimately I sort of side with one over the other. And yeah, I was also thinking about the fact, you know, it's kind of funny that the two major moments of the end of the first game slash season and the start of the second game slash season are kind of contrived from a plot perspective, in a sense.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And it's fascinating to talk about. I think like I really enjoyed discussing this stuff, even if ultimately I sort of side with one over the other. And yeah, I was also thinking about the fact, you know, it's kind of funny that the two major moments of the end of the first game slash season and the start of the second game slash season are kind of contrived from a plot perspective, in a sense.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

We revisit Joel's decision and it's this heart-wrenching decision. And we've all talked about what would we do in that situation? What should he have done? But it's kind of like they had to... Make the circumstances line up just so that he would have that choice and exactly that choice because the fireflies try to kill try to kill Ellie immediately and don't ask her what she wants. Right.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

We revisit Joel's decision and it's this heart-wrenching decision. And we've all talked about what would we do in that situation? What should he have done? But it's kind of like they had to... Make the circumstances line up just so that he would have that choice and exactly that choice because the fireflies try to kill try to kill Ellie immediately and don't ask her what she wants. Right.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

We revisit Joel's decision and it's this heart-wrenching decision. And we've all talked about what would we do in that situation? What should he have done? But it's kind of like they had to... Make the circumstances line up just so that he would have that choice and exactly that choice because the fireflies try to kill try to kill Ellie immediately and don't ask her what she wants. Right.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And, you know, partly maybe that's because they don't want to give her the chance to say, actually, no, I'd rather not die for everyone else here. Even if Marlene says that that's the choice Ellie would make, and it probably is, they don't give her the choice to make that. She doesn't have any more agency than we have when we're playing The Last of Us Part II.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And, you know, partly maybe that's because they don't want to give her the chance to say, actually, no, I'd rather not die for everyone else here. Even if Marlene says that that's the choice Ellie would make, and it probably is, they don't give her the choice to make that. She doesn't have any more agency than we have when we're playing The Last of Us Part II.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

And, you know, partly maybe that's because they don't want to give her the chance to say, actually, no, I'd rather not die for everyone else here. Even if Marlene says that that's the choice Ellie would make, and it probably is, they don't give her the choice to make that. She doesn't have any more agency than we have when we're playing The Last of Us Part II.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But, you know, they put her under without explaining what's happening. And they do it so fast also. Like, you know, they're ready to kill her before Joel even wakes up from his bump on the head.

The Ringer-Verse
'The Last of Us' Season 2, Episode 2: The Gamer Guide | Button Mash

But, you know, they put her under without explaining what's happening. And they do it so fast also. Like, you know, they're ready to kill her before Joel even wakes up from his bump on the head.