Ben Mandelker
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And it's just so reckless of him.
And it's so inconsiderate and so self-interested.
And I think it's just obnoxious.
And that's what I wanted her to be upset about.
Was that like, wow, you didn't, you didn't think about,
How something like this could affect me coming back when I come back to the boat in my most vulnerable state I've ever been in in my life.
This is not the only shit friend thing you did to any of these people on this boat, by the way.
And Kathy, Kathy is sitting there next to them.
And she's like, she has her hands up on the glass on the window.
She's like, get me out of this van.
I can't, I don't want to, I don't want to be here anymore.
And so Kizzy's like, yeah, me kissing Joe.
And then the guilt that came from it, Joe kissing me.
It was just a lot.
And V is just like, uh-huh.
Yeah.
Joe kissing me.
So Kathy's just like in total hell with these two.
And Kizzy's now doing this whole thing of like,
I just wish I had to speak to you.