Ben McKenzie
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Podcast Appearances
That's what Alex Machinze kept talking about.
Do it for the community, do it for the community.
But I asked them after they lost all this money.
So Celsius collapsed.
Alex Patricia went to jail.
He had made tens of millions of dollars off of these people.
I asked him now, do you think the Celsius community was like a real thing?
They were all like, no.
Oh, God.
It was a lie.
They still believed in crypto, interestingly enough.
Yeah.
When you're running a con, when you're running a fraud, it's way easier to do that online than it is in real life.
Exactly.
It's a used car salesman all over the place.
And I asked one of the guys who had lost money in it.
He made that point.
He's like, it's just easier to fake it online.
If I had ever met this dude, but he never did.
And all they were doing is doing slickly produced videos, talking about how everyone's going to make money.