Ben McKenzie

Oh, good.

Good.

That was intentional.

I was trying to kind of make it fun.

A lot of OC jokes.

I kept coming back to this concept in the film about crypto is sold as a story of technology, but it's not.

It's actually a story of human behavior and

the crypto market really just exists as a projection of the hopes and dreams of all of these investors that think they're going to make a ton of money on this.

And then it's wrapped in this political ideology for a lot of them, this sort of libertarian type thing.

It's very male.

We should definitely talk about that.

Holy shit.

And so I think it becomes about belief systems and stories that we're telling ourselves and each other.

And Trump, this notorious con man,

like his one neat trick is that he never apologizes and he always pushes through with bluster and he ends up conning his own people, right?

Like he cons his own people over and over and over again and they just keep coming back for more.

And in the movie I tried to sort of like

talk about a similar thing by showing, uh, I interviewed victims of this fraud called Celsius and I bonded with them earlier in the movie.

And then at the end I come back and I ask them, do you still believe in crypto?

And some of these people have lost their life savings.