Ben McKenzie

Like it was created in opposition to it and then it's going to recreate it.

Well, yeah.

And I mean, the title of the movie, Everyone's Longing to for Money, to me, just like really does embody the age in which we're living, where we're just so aware that.

Everyone is lying to us all of the time for money.

Sometimes it's just like relatively innocuous, like, hey, we're trying to sell you a product or whatever that actually does something.

But sometimes it's just, you know, it's just straight up scams and frauds.

And again, like the president of the United States is a convicted fraudster, is found guilty by a jury of his peers.

You know, like, what do we expect?

Of course.

And then what does it say about us?

that a plurality of us voted for him.

You know, I think it should at a minimum be a moment for the Democratic Party to look in the mirror and say, you lost to this guy twice?

that's a like that is first of all pathetic it's just absolutely pathetic and it should cause you to think about why and if they can't tell the parties apart and you know how bad he is right then you're doing something wrong yeah um so trying to like talk to people about that um

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Spending a couple of years looking at this, because it's been four years now, so many of the people that I talk to are men.

It's almost exclusively men.

There are some women, but it's really, really... Which is fascinating, because...

Yes, the traditional financial markets are often male-dominated as well.

But this is to an even further extent and degree.