Ben Nadaf-Haffrey

We've got this 75-year-old plus secret of how to bake Thomas' English muffins. It's a half a billion dollar product, and he knows it.

We've got this 75-year-old plus secret of how to bake Thomas' English muffins. It's a half a billion dollar product, and he knows it.

That was the weirdest moment, because we were both staring at each other.

That was the weirdest moment, because we were both staring at each other.