Ben Orlando

And it was hard for me in a lot of ways because I was closed off.

And so I started to expand and be more curious and get therapy.

And that process has been amazing.

And so...

for us to share, for us to know that we can get mad at each other and not keep things bottled up, um, to listen, to bring out even little things, uh, and, and, and be there in those moments.

And now for us, we have so much in common too.

It's like, we don't, we don't care about having a lot.

Um,

Like we want to live in a small space, but in a, in an amazing environment.

And so like, again, that goes back to what, what matters.

So for us being open with each other, listening, being able to support each other and kind of go back and forth, like,

recognizing if I'm low that she comes in and helps me and vice versa.

So I feel like we're so lucky.

We have flexibility.

We spend so much time together.

We wake up in the morning together.

We actually...

work.

So when I got my license, I got an office in the same on the same floor as her.

So we work together.