Ben Orlando

And we get to see each other throughout the day, we often walk to work, walk home together.

And we don't get tired of each other.

So it's, it's wonderful.

And so I think we both also appreciate how much time we need to rest, and how much time we need for each other.

So we'll say no to friends or to doing other things.

because it's really important that we have that time.

We saw a couple episodes and it was kind of hard to watch from the therapist perspective.

I've heard it kind of works out because it's like the things that are happening in the beginning are like, oh, like they're cringeworthy.

It was nice to see.

I also liked it because it didn't seem like there was a lot of conflict.

There was conflict, but it's like a lot of conflict is gratuitous to keep the plot moving, where here it's like, oh, people can get along and people can connect and there can be teamwork on a deeper level.

And that was really refreshing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She never pressured me or said, I want you to do this.

In fact, she was really apprehensive when I said, because I was at the high point of my career as a teacher.

And I'm like, okay, I want to change everything.

And it was hard for her financially and otherwise, because it was a lot of time to go back to school, to do the internship, the practicum.

It took a while.

But it was...