Ben Orlando

She has been such a role model to me.

It's like just being around her and just taking in who she is and what she's trying to do.

Her journey to self-exploration, it's incredible.

And she's been doing it for so long.

And so I feel like I'm, I'm new to the path, but just being around her and little by little, I, cause it took, maybe it was five years, six years after we met that I decided I want to go see a therapist.

So it took that long for me to get to that point where it's like, okay, I feel like I'm seeing, uh, what I wasn't seeing before.

Cause I was cut off.

Like

I couldn't really feel... You're talking about shrinking and seeing emotional depth.

I couldn't really feel sadness and grief on a deep level.

I couldn't feel anger because of what I grew up with.

It didn't feel safe.

And so that's what I found.

And it's because of her.

I don't know where I would be otherwise.

And it's just...

I feel so grateful to her.

And I also now it's like, I know how much I'm helping her and I can see that.

And I can say it out loud without feeling like, Oh, I'm bragging.

You know, it's like, I know, I know what I'm bringing to the relationship and to the world.