Ben Rhodes
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103 appearances
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Sep 2025
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I mean, there have been a variety of European countries like Poland and smaller ones too.
I have friends who fought back autocracy in places like Slovenia that have kind of stared over the abyss of autocracy, kind of pulled back.
What they did in those countries is they built big tent coalitions, right?
So they said, look, from the left to the center, there's stuff we don't agree about.
But essentially, this is existential for our country.
And so we're going to put ourselves under one big umbrella, and we're going to prioritize democracy.
Frankly, that's kind of what failed for us in the last election.
I think what we have to realize is that we're distinct from those countries and from a lot of countries around the world, precisely because we are so big and so diverse.
We're multiracial.
We're 50 states in a federated system.
And so in some ways, that gives us more tools to fight back.
But I think what's missing, Joy, is it can't just be an antiseptic democracy that's institutions.
It has to be something moral.
It has to be the kind of thing that gets people in the streets.
What's a kind of moral cause?
And I think we've lost that in our politics.
We didn't have that in the last election.
It's why, by the way, I appreciate Joy Reid's voice so much.
It's because we need people that are willing to fight for things, even some things that aren't popular.
You know, it's not just about finding the best poll-tested language.
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