Ben Rhodes

Those two world wars were so devastating that everybody got together and were like, we need laws of war to govern how and when countries can go to war.

We need laws to make sure that sovereignty is an inviolable principle so big countries just don't invade small ones.

Because they didn't want not just another world war, they didn't want a nuclear world war.

They didn't want World War III, right?

That's why you get a whole UN system, all these things.

And Trump is tearing at all of that with this.

And look, Greenland is actually the best example of it, more than Venezuela.

Why Denmark?

Stephen Miller's like, why shouldn't that be ours instead of Denmark's?

Look, I'm not a Greenlander.

I can't speak to how the Danish have been there.

They've probably done some shitty things over the years.

But for 300 years, this has kind of been a part of Denmark.

And so if you go in and say, we're going to take this massive geography...

with all these natural resources and just claim it because we're stronger, you're gonna shatter NATO.

You're gonna shatter the US alliance with Europe.

You're going to encourage the Russians and Chinese to grab more of their own because then they're gonna see we're in a resource competition.

We're in a great power competition.

We need to grab more territory.

Right.