Ben Rhodes

Yeah, it's interesting times.

Yeah, it's interesting times.

This is a historic pot save the world. Everybody should stick around to the end of this one.

This is a historic pot save the world. Everybody should stick around to the end of this one.

This is a historic pot save the world. Everybody should stick around to the end of this one.

Yeah, for longtime worldos, you might remember Max Sedin, who is the Moscow bureau chief for the Financial Times, not currently in Moscow for obvious reasons. Max was on a bunch at the beginning of the full-scale war in Ukraine.

Yeah, for longtime worldos, you might remember Max Sedin, who is the Moscow bureau chief for the Financial Times, not currently in Moscow for obvious reasons. Max was on a bunch at the beginning of the full-scale war in Ukraine.

Yeah, for longtime worldos, you might remember Max Sedin, who is the Moscow bureau chief for the Financial Times, not currently in Moscow for obvious reasons. Max was on a bunch at the beginning of the full-scale war in Ukraine.

So we had him on to talk about how the Russians are digesting this swing in American foreign policy, how they're seeing things, what the domestic political environment is in Russia, how Russia might have further ambitions in Europe or in the former Soviet space in this new world of carved up spheres of influence with the United States.

So we had him on to talk about how the Russians are digesting this swing in American foreign policy, how they're seeing things, what the domestic political environment is in Russia, how Russia might have further ambitions in Europe or in the former Soviet space in this new world of carved up spheres of influence with the United States.

So we had him on to talk about how the Russians are digesting this swing in American foreign policy, how they're seeing things, what the domestic political environment is in Russia, how Russia might have further ambitions in Europe or in the former Soviet space in this new world of carved up spheres of influence with the United States.

So as usual, Max gives a very smart take on just what the Russian side of all this is. So everything we're about to talk about, Max, as an expert and a reporter, was able to kind of fill in. Here's how Putin might be seeing things here, how the Russians are seeing things. So people should definitely check it out.

So as usual, Max gives a very smart take on just what the Russian side of all this is. So everything we're about to talk about, Max, as an expert and a reporter, was able to kind of fill in. Here's how Putin might be seeing things here, how the Russians are seeing things. So people should definitely check it out.

So as usual, Max gives a very smart take on just what the Russian side of all this is. So everything we're about to talk about, Max, as an expert and a reporter, was able to kind of fill in. Here's how Putin might be seeing things here, how the Russians are seeing things. So people should definitely check it out.

Basically, yeah. Max's head was spinning as I was talking to him. It's hard to get your mind around what's happening right now.

Basically, yeah. Max's head was spinning as I was talking to him. It's hard to get your mind around what's happening right now.

Basically, yeah. Max's head was spinning as I was talking to him. It's hard to get your mind around what's happening right now.

Yes. Yeah. Well, also the Middle East envoy being in the Russia talks is interesting because to show how arbitrary the Trump foreign policy team is going to be in terms of who does what role.

Yes. Yeah. Well, also the Middle East envoy being in the Russia talks is interesting because to show how arbitrary the Trump foreign policy team is going to be in terms of who does what role.

Yes. Yeah. Well, also the Middle East envoy being in the Russia talks is interesting because to show how arbitrary the Trump foreign policy team is going to be in terms of who does what role.