Ben Rhodes

Yeah.

Yeah.

They will prioritize, I think, the healthcare and so forth.

But look, these are tiny stopgap measures.

So to your other question, when do we get to that magical point where the population has had enough and there's this uprising and the outbreak of democracy?

Well,

I guess we're going to find out because if we kind of keep going forward with this, then we potentially get to a situation where the economy is fully broken down and there's no economic activity taking place.

And essentially what we have is Haiti.

90 miles from the United States.

And so then – It just feels unprecedented, right?

I think that that is what they're trying to do is trying to see if they can –

force some kind of action out of the government by bringing that entire economy to a standstill.

And you can say it's for the purpose of bringing about a better Cuba.

And I think a lot of Cubans are done with this government.

That is crystal clear.

But nor do they want to be the last victims, as you see this kind of period of improvement take place.

At the same time, in Munich, Rubio said, look, if the government shows signs of an opening in the economy and opens its hand a little bit, then we'll interpret that positively.

So I don't know that there's also alignment between that.

Rubio, knowing what the president is prepared to kind of dedicate to this effort, it's not the same as Venezuela.

There's no oil, right?